Review of ROLEX Submariner ref. 16610

How could you possibly write a “review” of the most iconic watch in the world, the Rolex Submariner? There must be hundreds, if not THOUSANDS of reviews of the “Sub” already. Wouldn’t it be like beating a dead horse?

Probably. But let’s write one anyway.

The old vs. new Submariner-debate has been going on for years in the watch communities. Most non-watch people probably couldn’t even tell the difference between the two but the Rolex aficionados are different breed.

The new model 116610 was introduced in 2010 it got very mixed reponse among the enthusiasts. The look changed quite dramatically. While the diameter size stayed the same on paper (40 millimeters) the new model wears much bigger.

No sensible person could deny that new models are technically superior watches with better bracelets and clasps. This debate has always been about the visual aspects of the watch. The new, contemporary “fat lugs” version was such a big departure from the classic Rolex look and it never managed to capture everyone’s heart.

I also prefer the old version with slim lugs. It sits so perfectly on the wrist and it’s versatile enough to be worn with any wardrobe. Perhaps the most important thing about the 16610 is that it looks great on any wrist, big or small. It’s just so perfectly balanced.

Another nice thing is that there is no waiting list for them. Just buy one from the second hand market and enjoy. Do it now though – before the prices take yet another quantum leap, like the 4-digit prices did.

Here you can see me wearing my friend’s newer 116610. Very attractive watch indeed. Just slightly different, bulkier appearance.

The visual appearance is, of course, just a matter of personal preference and there’s no right answer. A lot of people prefer the new versions and I can understand why. I like larger watches too and Breitling SteelFish SuperOcean fills that gap in my collection nicely.

My review of Breitling SteelFish SuperOcean

Either way, Submariner is an iconic model and all it has always been extremely popular and recognizable. Sean Connery wore the no-crown guard versions in the early James Bond movies, Roger Moore had the 5513 in many movies and Timothy Dalton wore the 16610. Steve McQueen made the 5512 famous and I’m sure the new 6-digit will eventually earn its place in the model range history as well.

Basically, the classic Submariner received only one major visual update. That was when the “Bond” Submariner was updated to 5512 in 1960. The date version 1680 surfaced in 1967 and it’s basically the same watch as my 16610 (model year 2001), with very minor changes. Sure, it received some facelifts: Like 904 steel, sapphire crystal, solid end links, luminova / super luminova, rehaut engraving and movement upgrades during the production run but an average guy would be hard pressed to tell the difference. The following picture demonstrates how little the model actually changed between 1960-2010. (photos borrowed from the book “Rolex Submariner Story” by Lele Ravagnani (highly recommended!)

As you can see the classic Submariner was in production for 50 years with virtually no visual changes at all. Those iconic “spiky” crown guards and the triplock winding crown remained completely untouched. It’s astounding. People say how Porsche 911 has remained the “same” although the new model is considerably heavier and bigger and it only resembles the original in shape. Sub remained visually untouched 1960-2010 so it’s not difficult to understand why some people still have a hard time adapting to the new version.

Then, of course, there is the “turbocharged cousin” or “the real man’s Submariner”, the Sea-Dweller, which I have reviewed in another article.

My review of Rolex Sea-Dweller 16600

I also own the white “Polar Explorer II” and GMT Master II from the same era (another K-serial in my collection).

My review of Rolex GMT Master II 16710

The movement of 16610 is the COSC-certified Rolex caliber 3135. It was first introduced in 1988 and became Rolex’s main movement and it was used in many models. Experts agree that it is one of the most reliable automatic movements ever made. It’s a high beat movement that oscillates at 28.800 bph.

The balance features two pairs of adjusting system, known as the “Microstella”. It has four screws at symmetrically spaced positions along the balance wheel.

It doesn’t have any decoration as it’s designed to be hidden inside the Oyster case to withstand the most extreme conditions. Movement picture courtesy of Rolex USA.

3135_movement

The old, hollow-link Oyster bracelets and their sheet metal clasps have been subject to criticism — often by those who haven’t actually worn them — as long as I can remember. Some people complain that the old Submariner diving suit extension is difficult to use.

Personally, I like the old Rolex Oyster bracelets, and while I admit they don’t suit modern sensibilities for what’s expected on an expensive watch, they’re strong, serve their purpose well, and are extremely comfortable to wear. They also have a certain silky, smooth feeling that none of the “homage” watches has managed to capture.

The new “supercase” versions have much better clasps and superior bracelets. But I wouldn’t trade my classic Oyster bracelet and clasp to anything, I like them just the way they are.

clasp

What makes the 16610 a special 5-digit, you ask? Why not the 16800 or 14060 or some other variation? And how about the absolutely gorgeous “Bluesy” in two tone?

Review of Rolex Submariner 16613

Nothing makes it more special than the others, it’s just my personal preference. In my opinion, the 16610 with lug holes, luminova dial and without rehaut ROLEXROLEX-engravings represents the “best of both worlds”. That’s how I like mine and to me it has the best parts and “spirits” from the old and new Rolex. In short, it’s my favorite Rolex watch.

I also owned the 14060 no-date version. It’s very nice and has pure, beautiful lines but in the end of the day I prefer the cyclops version. I know the purists say that the original Sub came without date, but somehow the cyclops and date window give the watch some extra “wrist presence” and while it’s not the “original Submariner look” at least it has become quintessentially “the youngtimer classic Rolex look” – and because it was in production for so long, I guess it’s safe to say (along with the two-tone DateJust) it’s the most recognizable Rolex model out there. You can spot one from ten meters away.

I’ve always preferred this era of Rolex watches and my Sub, Sea-Dweller and GMT Master are all K-serials with lug holes and luminova. The classy white gold surroundings on the hour markers and pure, white luminova dial (which doesn’t lose its luminous abilities with age) is an unbeatable combination. Tritium (T<25) dials lose their glow over time but Super luminova markers glow just as bright today as they did 18 years ago.

When I was wearing my 14060 I always felt that something was missing. Not only the date feature but I never fully warmed up to the looks and “flat” wrist presence of the no-date version. If you’re in the market for a classic 5-digit Submariner I highly recommend trying all three versions on (No-date, Date and the Sea-Dweller).

You can read more about my general thoughts about the 14060, 16600 and the other 5-digit models here:

Which 5-digit Rolex to buy?

Submariner is not the most original choice, far from it. Some watch collectors consider it unimaginative and mundane… nor it is anything special from the horological standpoint. It’s not the most expensive Rolex, nor it’s the most desirable (as the production numbers are so high), nor it’s as difficult to obtain as say, Cosmograph Daytona. But even the naysayers can’t deny its iconic status in the watch world. It’s the most copied watch in the world.

There are a lot of discussions how brand XXX has made much better bracelet or clasp than a Submariner. Or how the model XXX is “much better done” than a Submariner. Well yeah, but they’re still not the Rolex Submariner –  and never will be.

There is a whole industry built around Submariner homages. It’s THE model that most manufacturers aspire to have in their lineup – and a measuring stick that all dive watches get compared to, like it or not.

In many ways Submariner is the real Rolex flagship model. Without 911 Porsche wouldn’t be Porsche and without Submariner Rolex probably couldn’t have achieved and maintained such position and image in the luxury watch industry.

But on the other hand it’s just rather simple, mass produced steel sports watch. I understand perfectly that many people feel it’s overhyped and overpriced. But for me the 16610 is the most perfect sports watch ever made and it has been a mainstay in my collection since 2003. My K-serial is the only watch that I can say with great certainty that one day it will be passed to my son.

16 thoughts on “Review of ROLEX Submariner ref. 16610

  1. JP-This is a well thought out review of the 16610 Submariner. Of particular value are the comparative Rolex references showing the similarities through the years of the Submariner design. Initially a tool watch, the 1680 was the transition initial date watch that led to the 3135 caliber in the 16610. I have owned a 1680 red Submariner for 50 years as the original owner, and it is one tough dive watch by any standard. My current 16610 is a 2002 version with drilled lug holes, a must have for extended marine vessel use or diving.(The NATO-style nylon fasteners may save your watch if one spring bar tears loose through rough tool watch use. The other bar will save the watch from loss in the ocean.
    The ss Rolex bracelet is stronger, but if one spring bar gives way or is lost-the watch is in peril.)

    Finally, I recommend Paul Altieri’s excellent article “Last of the Best’ from the Bob’s Watches site.
    It details the advantages of the 3130/3135 caliber/ movements inside both the 14060 M and the 16610 Submariners. Rolex has never made finer upscale tool watches for we old school but modern scuba divers.

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  2. Thanks Henderson.

    I’ve been dreaming of the 1675, 5513 and red 1680 but the prices have gone out of hand. A dealer in England (that I know very well) offered me both 5513 and 1675 back in the mid-2000’s for a price that I don’t even want to tell here (because it’d ruin everyone’s day).

    Watches are rarely investments but 5-digit steel sports Rolexes are pretty much bullet proof buys right now. It’s not difficult to predict what will happen in the next 10 years.

    Enjoy your 1680 man, such a great reference! And thanks for the articles. Very interesting reads.

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  3. Bracelets and clasps play a full part in the unique pleasure of wearing a Rolex watch. Their ergonomics are carefully studied, while their robustness and reliability, their aesthetics and lustre are all inherent to the personality of the timepiece.

    Im in love with my Submariner since it fitted my wrist perfectly! Thanks for this great article man. Greeting from Malaysia. – Dr Zhairul

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  4. Bracelets and clasps play a full part in the unique pleasure of wearing a Rolex watch. Their ergonomics are carefully studied, while their robustness and reliability, their aesthetics and lustre are all inherent to the personality of the timepiece.

    It’s a great masterpieces by Rolex. I’m having a great time ownership with the Submariner Black and it fitting well on my wrist with diving durability usage.

    Well great article! Greetings from Malaysia. – Dr Zhairul

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    1. Thanks Zhairul. Yes it is my favorite Rolex watch. Goes with any kind of wardrobe and fits perfectly to small and big wrists. Happy 2021 man!!!

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